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Jars of Clay Frontman Comes Out in Support of Homosexual ‘Marriage’

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In a series of assertive Tweets, Dan Haseltine of the popular band Jars of Clay took to his Twitter account and came out in support of homosexual ‘marriage,’ …

 

I succeed that Dan Haseltine has the right, in this country, to free speech. He also has the right to tweet his views and opinions on any topic he desires. Knowing that same-sex marriage is a ‘hot topic’ issue and one that is bound to spark deep emotional response both for and against, one has to wonder why Dan decided to open this can of worms in the first place. Was he trying to garner some publicity for his band, knowing that any press is good press, or was he seriously seeking to understand the whole issue?

From his own tweets it would seem Dan has made up his mind on the issue and is not really seeking to garner understanding from those who are opposed to same-sex marriage. He even tweets that he really does not care what the bible says about it.

I quote:

“I don’t particularly care about Scriptures stance on what is ‘wrong,’” he stated. “I care more about how it says we should treat people.”

Perhaps this is where we all run into trouble when dealing with scripture. Instead of looking at scripture from God’s viewpoint and how He feels about an issue and why, we look at it purely from a personal viewpoint and how it makes us feel and how we wish to be treated by others, whether it is right or wrong is not up for discussion. We feel that what we want and how we feel about any given issue should be respected and honored by others and they have no right to tell us how we ought to live.

Okay if that is your position, then please do not quote the bible or even reference the sacred text, since you really do not care what it has to say anyway. Scripture is not open for private interpretation, it is a spiritual guide-book, and as such requires spiritual insight into its meaning  and application. This is why so many have misapplied scripture and have misrepresented Christ in the process, because they have wanted to use the scripture to support their viewpoint and not adjusting their viewpoints to reflect scripture.

For example let us take just one commandment:

Thou shall not commit adultery. And yet many Christians do just that. They do not see anything wrong with their behavior and do not wish for anyone to tell them that what they are doing is wrong, and yet the bible is unambiguous about the issue.

And on the issue of marriage that is pretty clear as well, a man shall leave his father and mother (note it does not say father and father or mother and mother) and cling to his wife, the two shall become one flesh. Okay now we could argue what is meant by the word WIFE but it is clear what MAN is, unless of course you are confused about your gender.

Jesus addressed this issue as well and I cite the verse in context:

Matthew 19:4-9 (GW)
4  Jesus answered, “Haven’t you read that the Creator made them male and female in the beginning
5  and that he said, ‘That’s why a man will leave his father and mother and will remain united with his wife, and the two will be one’?
6  So they are no longer two but one. Therefore, don’t let anyone separate what God has joined together.”
7  The Pharisees asked him, “Why, then, did Moses order a man to give his wife a written notice to divorce her?”
8  Jesus answered them, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you’re heartless. It was never this way in the beginning.
9  I can guarantee that whoever divorces his wife for any reason other than her unfaithfulness is committing adultery if he marries another woman.”

Jesus was being asked about divorce by the Pharisees, who were the religious leaders of the day. These men were supposed to be teachers of the law and they needed to be taught themselves.

You see folks the Christian community has a great deal of problems in regards to marriage, and same-sex marriage is just one of the many symptoms of a godless societal trajectory. There is a great deal of divorce and remarrying going on within the Christian community which Jesus said was committing adultery, and yet strangely nary a peep can be heard from Christian leaders on this issue of marriage.

So then if we are going to ignore adultery then we might as well ignore all other sexual sins as well and let everyone do as they please when it comes to sexual matters. After all what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is none of our business right?  Oh wait you are making it our business by bringing your bedrooms out into the street where everyone must witness your conduct. If you do not wish to be judged by your conduct then I suggest you do not display your conduct before the entire population, but if you choose to make a public display of your conduct then you should expect a public outcry concerning that conduct, do not be surprised then if not everyone finds your conduct acceptable. Some may, some may not, but regardless of whether you have majority support if your conduct does not meet with God’s approval then in the end it will be a worthless pursuit, ending in unspeakable torment and misery.

So to Dan and others who wish to pursue this topic be assured that not everyone is going to agree with any position you take on the matter, and you should not be offended when someone takes issue with your position. Be ready to suffer the consequences, but I will ask you this one question:

Mark 8:36 (GW)
36  What good does it do for people to win the whole world (gain popular opinions, gain world renown) yet lose their lives?

Jesus concludes by saying, hey if you are ashamed of what my word says and teaches in this wicked world then he will have no problem being ashamed of you when it comes time to choose whom he will spend eternity with.

In other words it is okay if you do not want to follow Jesus and his teachings, and since you do not want anything to do with Jesus here and now, you will not be upset when he wants nothing to do with you in the here after right?

Mark 8:38 (GW)
38  If people are ashamed of me and what I say in this unfaithful and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of those people when he comes with the holy angels in his Father’s glory.”

So whether the entire world approves of your conduct does not really matter in the end. The one who gets the last word is Jesus and since you really do not care what he has to say, then I guess go ahead and do what you want because in the end you will have an entire life to live without Jesus. Isn’t that really what you want anyway?

Go ahead and do it your way but be aware that your way does have consequences both here and hereafter.

And that is the way I see it. What say you?

 

 

 

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The Fall of the Roman Empire: Is America Following the Same Course?

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The similarities are too many to ignore. Remember God is not a respecter of persons, if he punished one society for their lawlessness and debauchery He is most likely to do the same for all others who follow after the same course. If God destroyed both Sodom and Gomorrah, and the late Roman Empire, America is not immune to his wrath.

There are many in America who have cried out against this debasement of our society, most often they are ignored or worse ridiculed and lambasted. Those who espouse decency are declared extremist and radical while all those who promote the killing of children and immoral sexual debasement are called champions of civil-rights.

Be warned! God is not mocked! What he done before he will surely do again!

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The culture of the Roman world was brutal and nasty. Ironically, we see its worst practices reviving with vigor. Please give us a moment as we recount a history seldom taught today’s students.

The Roman Empire had a twisted view about the value of human life. These views were banished by the ascendency of Christ’s teaching. Infanticide was both legal and encouraged in ancient Rome. Pagan societies, such as the Carthaginians, Romans and Greeks went so far as to kill their children outside the womb, sometimes as a religious sacrifice to their gods. According to Plutarch, the Carthaginians “offered up their own children, and those who had no children would buy little ones from poor people and cut their throats as if they were so many lambs of young birds; meanwhile the mothers stood by without a tear or moan.”

We see a modern American society which looks at children as a burden, and a generation of mothers who have decided by their own “choice” to sacrifice a generation. Population control is now an international objective.

Roman views on homosexuality were closer to today’s views than many realize. Pundit Nathaniel Blake characterizes it this way: “But, the Roman conception of same-sex relationships was very different than that of the modern West. The most important factors in the Roman view seem to have been the status and role of the partners. The Romans did not consider homosexual or heterosexual identities as exclusive from one another. While bisexuality was common, strict homosexuality was all but unknown. Unlike the modern view, social class mattered a great deal in the acceptability of homosexual relations. The upper classes were much more likely to indulge in homosexual acts, and masters had the sexual use of their slaves.” It was common to see an older man who held dominance over a younger male, using him for sexual pleasure.

Finally, we see the debasement of money and profligacy of the state. Today taxpayers fund stadiums for the “games.” Roman emperors don’t hold a candle to the US Congress and the Federal Reserve in the looting of the public coffers and destruction of money.

In this, Roman Emperor Caracalla comes to mind. In addition to murdering his brother, Caracalla is mostly remembered for granting Roman citizenship to every Freeman in the empire. Caracalla’s goal was to broaden the tax base to pay for his extravagant spending. He raised the inheritance tax so he could double public salaries and win the allegiance of the legions. His public works are still on display today. If you visit Rome, you can see the ruins of the gigantic “Baths of Caracalla.”

His final contribution rivals the Federal Reserve. The silver denarius was an innovation in sound money introduced by Emperor Augustus. It was 95 percent silver like America’s pre- 1964 coinage, and the denarius lead to greatly improved honest trade around the empire. Caracalla, in his drive to increase spending, changed it to a coin with only 50 percent silver.

It took later emperors to debase it as far as the Federal Reserve has debased America’s currency. By 268 AD the denarius was only 0.5 percent silver. The result was predictable, as prices rose throughout the empire by up to 1,000 percent. Soon the “barbarians” hired by the emperor as mercenaries would not accept the denarius as payment, and insisted on being paid in gold.

Such manipulations by Roman leaders are legendary, but Americans who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it. The moral and financial collapse of Rome lead to a renaissance of morality and the “Christian Era.” We can only hope that the accelerating American collapse leads to a return of the time tested honest culture that celebrates life, prudently shuns sexual immorality, and with commerce flourishing after a return to honest money.

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Augusta State Requires Christian Student to Attend Re-Education Plan In Order to Graduate

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Keeton VNR from ADF Media Relations on Vimeo .

I found this video a bit disturbing but not at all surprising. This is an example of why I am not an avid supporter of higher education. For the most part I feel our educational system has turned into an indoctrination service to enlist members in the atheist or secularist religions. To think that people actually pay big money to these institutes with hopes of obtaining a valuable education.

26 For [simply] consider your own call, brethren; not many [of you were considered to be] wise according to human estimates and standards, not many influential and powerful, not many of high and noble birth. 27 [No] for God selected (deliberately chose) what in the world is foolish to put the wise to shame, and what the world calls weak to put the strong to shame. 28 And God also selected (deliberately chose) what in the world is lowborn and insignificant and branded and treated with contempt, even the things that are nothing, that He might depose and bring to nothing the things that are, 29 So that no mortal man should [have pretense for glorying and] boast in the presence of God.

1 Cor 1:26-29 (AMP)

I would rather be uneducated according to Augusta State then to be re-educated into disavowing my faith in God.

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Belarus Theologian Takes PCUSA to Task On Gay Issues

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A hearty AMEN to Reverend Siarhei Hardum of Belarus for stating the obvious. The issue of homosexuality is clearly covered in Scriptures and there really should be no need to be debating this issue. The Christian church has long stated that Homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. If it is an abomination to the Lord wouldn’t it stand to reason then that those who promote this type of activity are also an abomination to the Lord? But if we want to just look at this from a morality issue, any sexual immorality is condemned by the bible not condoned.

I agree with the good Reverend from Belarus when he states this is a form of paganism.

If you are involved in a homosexual lifestyle there is hope for you in Jesus Christ but you must repent of your sexual immorality in order to receive his forgiveness. Like any other sin there is forgiveness after repentance.

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Associated Press logo smallPCUSA Presbyterian sealMINNEAPOLIS – An Orthodox Church theologian who was invited to greet the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has criticized its approval of non-celibate homosexual clergy.

The Reverend Siarhei Hardun of Belarus said that vote and efforts to approve same-gender “marriage” looked to him like an attempt to “invent a new religion — a sort of modern paganism.”

“Christian morality is as old as Christianity itself. It doesn’t need to be invented now,” he said of attempts to create what he described as a “new morality.”

Hardun added, “When people say that they are led and guided by the Holy Spirit to do it, I wonder if it is the same Holy Spirit that inspired the Bible.”
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Wisdom Wednesday: Just cause you can doesn’t mean you should

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“There’s a big difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do.” – Michael Josephson

Someone may say, “I’m allowed to do anything,” but not everything is helpful. I’m allowed to do anything, but not everything encourages growth. 24 People should be concerned about others and not just about themselves. 1 Corinthians 10:23-24 (GW)


The California Supreme court recently struck down a state ban on same sex marriage, which allows same sex couples to marry for the first time in California history. This is another in a growing trend of supreme court rulings overturning state laws forbidding same sex marriages. The argument seems to be that these same sex couples want the same legal benefits of the heterosexual community. Some seem to think this only makes sense, but much like the equal pay for equal work arguments of a bygone era, this too shall bring about unexpected results that will harm both heterosexual unions as well as the same sex unions.

Much like the outrage of the equal pay crowd when many more women were seeking employment, the resulting  wage stagflation was an unexpected outcome. Instead of the women’s wages rising to the higher male pay grade the over all pay rate of all workers was reduced to match that of the lower earning women’s rates. Simple oversupply for the demand drove wages downward, not up as demanded, by the feminists lobbyists. The end result was equal pay for equal work just at a much lower level.

I foresee the same effect happening across the spectrum as more and more same sex couples tap into the “benefits pool” that once was reserved for married couples. The strain on insurance benefits, medical spousal benefits, tax breaks, and social security payouts will force the laws to be changed and could effect all “married couples” negatively. Instead of the anticipated financial windfall the same-sex couples sought to tap into, their ever increasing numbers will only force the system to change to adapt to the increased demand for benefits. The system was not set up to accommodate the demographics now being presented to it.

I can foresee a time in our not to distant future where the so-called marriage benefits will be all but eliminated. Each individual will therefore be responsible for themselves and will not qualify for spousal benefits any longer. Just because you can and want to do something, does not mean it is best for society at large to engage in such behavior.

Living for the betterment of society is what the bible teaches. Not thinking only about oneself but the overall benefit to our fellow man is what the Christian model dictates. As more and more basic Christian values are removed from our society, an even greater strain is placed upon our nations moral foundation. Without the rock solid foundation of God’s word as our societal building block, our nation, like others before us, will falter under the weight of immorality and lawlessness. The virtues that made this country great, the selflessness and self-sacrifice of former generations, has been lost to the narcissism of today.

COURTS ADDRESS GAY CIVIL RIGHTS
Legal milestones involving same-sex couples:
1986. U.S. Supreme Court upholds a Georgia law banning sodomy between consenting adults.
1993. Hawaii’s Supreme Court rules the state constitution could give gay couples the same marital rights as heterosexual couples.
1996. President Clinton signs the Defense of Marriage Act defining marriage as a “union between one man and one woman.” It says states need not recognize same-sex marriages from other states.
1998. Hawaii voters amend state constitution to allow Legislature to reserve marriage for opposite-sex couples.
2000. Vermont becomes first state to allow civil unions between same-sex partners, giving them most of the benefits of marriage.
2003. U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a Texas law barring consensual gay sex, reversing its 1986 decision. Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court rules that same-sex couples have a right to marry.
2006. New York Court of Appeals, that state’s highest court, rejects gay marriage, as does the Washington Supreme Court. New Jersey Supreme Court rules gay couples have the same rights as heterosexual couples. It lets the Legislature decide whether to allow same-sex marriage or civil unions.
2007. Maryland Court of Appeals, the state’s highest court, upholds ban on gay marriage.
May 15, 2008.: California Supreme Court strikes down a state ban on same-sex marriage.

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