Science Discovers Biblical Oceans Buried Deep Under Earth’s Surface

Genesis 7:11-12 (NIV)
11  In the six hundredth year of Noah‘s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month–on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.12  And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty 

The public’s view that science and religion can’t work in collaboration is a misconception that stunts progress, according to a new survey of more than 10,000 Americans, scientists and evangelical Protestants. The study by Rice University also found that scientists and the public are surprisingly similar in their religious practices. The study found that nearly 50% of evangelicals believe that science and religion can work together and support one another. That contrasts with the fact that only 38% of Americans feel that science and religions can work in collaboration. This is not surprising because of the way science-religion relationships are portrayed in the news media. Most of what is seen in the news are stories about these two groups being at odds with each other. The news media likes to emphasize the controversial issues like teaching creationism in schools. Actual findings from the Rice study shows:


  • Nearly 60 percent of evangelical Protestants and 38 percent of all surveyed believe “scientists should be open to considering miracles in their theories or explanations.”
  •  27 percent of Americans feel that science and religion are in conflict.
  • Of those who feel science and religion are in conflict, 52 percent sided with religion.
  • 48 percent of evangelicals believe that science and religion can work in collaboration.
  • 22 percent of scientists think most religious people are hostile to science.
  • Nearly 20 percent of the general population think religious people are hostile to science.
  • Nearly 22 percent of the general population think scientists are hostile to religion.
  • Nearly 36 percent of scientists have no doubt about God’s existence.

So it really comes as no surprise when a story about science matches up pretty well with religious teachings found in the bible. That is the case with the latest scientific discovery of vast oceans of water found beneath the earths surface.

Geophysicists say they have discovered an immense water reservoir deep below the Earth’s surface—a find which Christian scientists say could be an affirmation of a verse in the biblical Great Flood account.

On Thursday, researchers with Northwestern University and the University of New Mexico announced the discovery of a vast underground ocean several miles beneath the Earth’s surface. Though the scientists cannot immediately verify their claims, they remain confident about their conclusions.

Water is part of Earth’s very definition as a planet. Clouds of water fill its atmosphere, oceans cover most of its surface, and groundwater is found everywhere underground. For the last century, geologists have traced the influence of water deeper and deeper into Earth’s interior. During the last year, whole oceans worth of water have been found in the mantle, hundreds of kilometers below the crust. And a paper in today’s issue of Science traces water’s influence all the way down to an important boundary inside the Earth, the top of the lower mantle.

“Northwestern geophysicist Steve Jacobsen and University of New Mexico seismologist Brandon Schmandt have found deep pockets of magma located about 400 miles beneath North America, a likely signature of the presence of water at these depths,” explains a press release from Northwestern University.

If the scientists’ calculations are correct, the amount of water beneath the Earth’s surface could dwarf the amount of water in our planet’s surface oceans.

“If just one percent of the weight of mantle rock in the transition zone is H2O, that would be equal to nearly three times the amount of water in our oceans,” the press release states.

The results of the study will help scientists understand Earth’s water cycle, and how plate tectonics moves water between the surface of the planet and interior reservoirs, researchers say.

The Earth’s mantle is the hot, rocky layer between the planet’s core and crust. Scientists have long suspected that the mantle’s so-called transition zone, which sits between the upper and lower mantle layers 255 to 410 miles (410 to 660 kilometers) below Earth’s surface, could contain water trapped in rare minerals. However, direct evidence for this water has lacked, until now.

To see if the transition zone really is a deep reservoir for water, researchers conducted experiments on water-rich ringwoodite, analyzed seismic waves traveling through the mantle beneath the United States, and studied numerical models. They discovered that downward-flowing mantle material is melting as it crosses the boundary between the transition zone and the lower mantle layer.

“If we are seeing this melting, then there has to be this water in the transition zone,” said Brandon Schmandt, a seismologist at the University of New Mexico and co-author of the new study published today (June 12) in the journal Science. “The transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of H2O [water] as all the world’s oceans.” (Melting is a way of getting rid of water, which is unstable under conditions in Earth’s lower mantle, the researchers said.)

A complete explanation of the testing process and what laboratory experiments have produced can be found here

According to Genesis 7:11, “the fountains of the great deep” were broken during the Great Flood, leading some Christians to believe that the underground ocean discovery sheds light on the biblical account. Brian Thomas, science writer for the Institute for Creation Research, told Christian News Network that the findings could potentially be related to the scriptural reference.

“It is of course possible that water found below Earth’s crust could be what remains from the waters ‘of the great deep’ that burst as fountains to Earth’s surface to initiate Noah’s year-long Flood according to Genesis 7:11,” Thomas said. “I would not refer to this news as a ‘significant verification’ of the Genesis Flood since some may suggest other explanations for the water, but it is consistent with Scripture’s general reference to waters deep beneath the earth.”

However, Thomas added, the very existence of water on Earth presents a problem for secular scientists.

“Secularists faced a tough enough challenge in trying to explain how Earth’s ocean waters came from rock,” he noted. “They imagine hydrated minerals from space rocks collided to form Earth. But the heat from those collisions would have pushed out the water. Now they have to explain this newly discovered deep water, too.”

The biblical account, Thomas continued, is much more consistent with the scientific evidence, since the Bible says God initially created the world as a watery sphere.

“Unlike secular thinkers,” he stated, “biblical scientists do not arbitrarily discount miracles, being open to the possibility that God built Earth with water like He said.”

Youth Take the Presbyterian Church to Church over Climate Change Awareness

In the beginning God created heaven and earth.

And God saw everything that he had made and that it was very good.  Genesis 1:1&31

“This is how I see the church really being like Jesus,” the release quoted Kirk. “Not just talking, but making hard choices to live like Jesus—caring for the poor and all in God’s creation without a voice; not taking more than our share; and preserving the earth for future generations.”

via Youth Convince Presbytery to Divest from Fossil Fuel Companies – Around Town – Minnetonka, MN Patch.

fossil fuel>>> on the way out

The reason the youths gave was to “raise awareness of climate change” in their view they believe “This is how I see the church really being like Jesus.” “Not just talking, but making hard choices to live like Jesus—caring for the poor and all in God’s creation without a voice; not taking more than our share; and preserving the earth for future generations.”

Now I think it is wonderful that our young people are taking an interest in church matters but I do find this a little unsettling. Many who know me and have read my posts on Facebook and this blog know I am not a believer in man-made climate change nor do I ascribe to the notion that CO2 is a pollutant; it is after all plant food. It has been proven that data used to promote the whole concept of Global warming was phony. Therefore the whole thing is a big hoax with designs on parting you from your money and livelihoods.

Of course my perspective comes from a biblical viewpoint one were God made the heavens and the earth and created the plant life and animal life before he created human life. In fact the plants were created before animals.

Could it be that God knew that all life required plant life to exist? And since plants are necessary to our well-being an abundance of plant food would be a good thing right? Since plants absorb CO2 and expel oxygen one  could make the case that more CO2 helps plants to grow which in the end makes our lives better because of the abundance of oxygen in the air. It is more plausible to believe the plants were created first to absorb the CO2 from the atmosphere to prepare the earth for human habitation. So more plants would be great. Face it there is no plant life on any other planet and there is no life.

Here’s an idea for you, since we know plants love CO2 and can not get enough of it, and we know forests are loved by environmentalists and human habitations are despised, why not tear down all the cities around the world and replace them with parks with lots of flowers and trees? Imagine the huge carbon footprint cities leave behind with all those people milling around exhaling all that CO2 right into the atmosphere. How much lovelier a park would be with tall trees in place of those huge, ugly, tall buildings, not to mention the uptick in CO2 absorption rates.

Talking about creation and God’s provisions for life on this third rock from the sun, despising the Lord’s gifts and blessings is a big slap in the face to God don’t you think? I would like to remind you that oil, and “natural” gas are “NATURAL” and, were put here by God himself. He apparently thought they would be beneficial to life on earth since after he created everything he said it was all good! That means the earth and everything in it was good and created to sustain life on this planet. How is it then that something which God called good is now bad and is somehow harming the very creation which produced it in the first place? It is “natural” after all meaning it came from nature.

The students are concerned about the image and the statement being made by the church’s choices in investments. They felt that the church needed to walk the walk and not simply talk the talk. With that I agree! In large part the church is not living the life that God expects the church to lead. There is far too much creature in the church and not enough Creator. Now if the students were to speak out against that I would be standing arm and arm with them in their pursuit of holiness.

In the student’s statement they were concerned about “preserving the earth for future generations.” As far as leaving behind a better world for our children, I think the best way to do that would be to Preach the Gospel of His Kingdom and not some phony doctrine contrived by thieving, lying, power-hungry tyrants. Seeking to save the lost is what God expects the church to be doing. So I ask you, is divestiture in oil futures really that big a deal when the majority of the earth is going to hell in a hand basket?

We strain so hard at gnats and swallow huge camels in the process. Perhaps we ought to be focusing more on sin and not synthetics.

And that is the way I see it. What say you?

Image.gifThis is a view from the nest.

But those who are waiting for the Lord will have new strength; they will get wings like eagles: running, they will not be tired, and walking, they will have no weariness. Isaiah 40:31 (BBE)

Along for the journey


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If the Earth is Shakin’ Perhaps God is Knockin’

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Heb 12:26-27 (GW) When God spoke to your ancestors, his voice shook the earth. But now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the sky.” The words once more show clearly that God will change what he has made. These are the things that can be shaken. Then only the things that cannot be shaken will remain.

Volcanic eruptions such as this one can create...
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Are natural disasters signs of the “end of the age” spoken of in Scripture, or simply just natural occurrences? Would it be proper to associate the apparent increase in seismic activity, and volcanic eruptions with an ‘angry God’ punishing the earth? Or are these just the start of more to come? Is it possible to tell the ‘signs of the end’ from day-to-day occurrences? Is there a difference?


In the past several years we’ve seen many significant natural disasters in many places across the globe. For thousands of years there have been earthquakes, famines, and plagues which have brought havoc to mankind.

Are the events of these past few months breaking new ground (forgive the pun) in the global shaking that has increased over the past century? Is there really more seismic activity or are we just more aware of them because of the nature of the news cycle? Could it be the 24 hour a day news programs are adding to the perception that the world is crumbling at the seams?

There have been doomsday prophets for as long as time existed. Since the first century after Christ’s crucifixion there have been those who said the world was coming to an end even before we got to the 21st century. Yet the world still remains. Does this mean Christ’s return is never going to happen? Should we simply ignore these earthquakes or is there something we can learn from all this?

As we witness the groaning of creation, are they the literal birth-pangs of the “Day of the Lord” or just a wake-up call for Christians to be ready for the coming harvest? As things grow increasingly more confused and more lives are affected by one natural disaster after another I can see a great need arising upon the Earth for something more dependable. As the very foundations are shaking beneath the feet of many, there remains a solid rock upon which we can place our hope and trust, that rock is Jesus Christ, the only sure foundation.

As fortunes fall and the earthquakes of life challenges continue with greater frequency the world is becoming ripe to solutions, something real. They have heard all the lies and have trusted in others only to see their foundations shaking and their lives crumbling. Are we ready to offer something other than ‘just words, just speeches?” Is there a place of refuge for those whose lives have been shaken? Is there a place of rest from the constant uproar of the world around us? Is there a safety net for those falling into despair and panic?

The answer to all the world’s needs is the same as it has always been. No matter how hard man tries to remove God from their lives He is still a force that needs to be reckoned with. Accounts need to be settled, debts need to be paid, a man’s choices need to be judged, evil dealt with. As our scripture reference explains, there is coming a shake-up from God, the purpose of which is to shake everything that can be shaken so that the only thing remaining is that which can not be shook. And that sure foundation is trusting in the Lord thy God.

As the great architect of all things, God is the only one capable of mapping out an exit strategy. Trust in the Lord and you will be able to withstand the shakin’ that’s goin’ on. So is it going to be the ‘Rock’ or do you prefer to roll? The choice is yours, I however say along with the Psalmist:

Psalms 62:6-8 (NKJV) He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defense; I shall not be moved. In God is my salvation and my glory; The rock of my strength, And my refuge, is in God. Trust in Him at all times, you people; Pour out your heart before Him; God is a refuge for us. Selah


But those who are waiting for the Lord will have new strength; they will get wings like eagles: running, they will not be tired, and walking, they will have no weariness. Isaiah 40:31 (BBE)

Along for the journey

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We Debate You Decide: Does CO2 Cause Global Warming?

Does CO2 Cause Global Warming? We Debate You Decide

You decide whom you believe. Al Gore or several climatologists. You decide if a naturally occuring gas that we exhale and plants inhale for growth could actually cause Global warming. And if the earth does warm is that really a problem? I mean what is the alternative? Another ICE AGE? How is that going to save energy or promote PLANT growth on the planet? It would appear to me that common sense dictates that God would not create a GAS CO2 which is needed to sustain life would actually be detrimental to that life. I do believe man can cause global warming but not from CO2 but from S I N.

In the end it will not be man causing global warming but God. Check this out:

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [ material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10 (AMP)

Earth Day 2009




For the creation waits with eager longing
for the revealing of the sons of God.
Romans 8:19 (ESV)


The only way to truely save the planet is to remember who it belongs to.

The End of Days: Armageddon and Prophecies of the Return (The Earth Chronicles)

Blue Planet: Seas of Life (Special Edition)

Planet Earth – The Complete BBC Series

The Late Great Planet Earth

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